tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post366123096945207483..comments2023-08-19T06:19:28.990-04:00Comments on the nytpicker: Jay Maeder Gets Editors' Note For Self-Plagiarism In City Room Blog; Columnist Tom Friedman Still At Large.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-7202326922380632242011-03-13T03:56:20.371-04:002011-03-13T03:56:20.371-04:00no sense reinventing the wheel.no sense reinventing the wheel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-68667881007612721012011-03-12T23:13:36.328-05:002011-03-12T23:13:36.328-05:00How many ways are there for you to describe the hi...How many ways are there for you to describe the historical background of a statue, or why a bridge was named one way or another, so that you do not repeat yourself? This is pretty silly, really.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-46735869683179104062011-03-11T17:39:45.670-05:002011-03-11T17:39:45.670-05:00Usually, when you submit something for publication...Usually, when you submit something for publication, the expectation is that you're submitting original, unpublished material. <br /><br />So, if you slip in a big chunk of your own previously published material without your editor's permission, you're giving your client/boss less than what they assume they're paying for. That's sleazy. <br /><br />It's a big ethical violation to lift even one sentence from someone else without attribution. <br /><br />But as long as we're just talking a paragraph here and there, I don't think self-plagiarism is a big enough deal to warrant a public rebuke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-46933864203722036712011-03-11T17:20:10.766-05:002011-03-11T17:20:10.766-05:00I agree it's harsh to consider it unethical.
...I agree it's harsh to consider it unethical. <br /><br />I am a journalist and have done it on occasion, ususally because I have to recycle different stories for different publications to make ends meet. <br /><br />If they are our words, we can use them when and how we like.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-29195511874763545682011-03-10T21:17:03.055-05:002011-03-10T21:17:03.055-05:00Wire services do this all the time.Wire services do this all the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-15368132316376013882011-03-10T18:08:35.898-05:002011-03-10T18:08:35.898-05:00There's more of a risk to self-plagiarize if t...There's more of a risk to self-plagiarize if the writer is overly specialized. These writers tend to cast themselves into a corner and repeat the same line, or angle or idea over and over and over again. They bet on the rapid flow of information and a dearth of attentive readers to pass without critique. Like the closeted racist, the closeted scientologist, the closeted PR person passing as journalist, the all-snark and putdowns and nothing else parrot, the punting jackass, the roster of single-moded noisemakers is endless and noise pollution is a price of free speech.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-91907349042339452852011-03-08T21:03:44.733-05:002011-03-08T21:03:44.733-05:00It's not self-plagiarism (there's no such ...It's not self-plagiarism (there's no such thing) it's at best an unaccredited rerun. Some would consider it lazy, and laziness is unethical when many depend on your words. It's not the same as being too lazy to brush your teeth, It's like being a lazy firefighter, a lazy surgeon, or a lazy school teacher. <br /><br />Still, it's not as unethical a breach as outright theft, trespassing or other violations of private property.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8007635024151290238.post-61852635553871709332011-03-08T12:46:51.068-05:002011-03-08T12:46:51.068-05:00Why would self-plagiarism be considered unethical?...Why would self-plagiarism be considered unethical? I'd certainly consider it lazy, and beneath what's expected of an NYT journalist, and a violation of an understanding between the journalist and the editor that the journalist make a best effort, but I don't think that ethics comes into play.<br /><br />The fact that it was lifted from material published in the Daily News seems to make this more of a copyright or other intellectual property violation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com